Showing posts with label welding. Show all posts
Showing posts with label welding. Show all posts

Thursday, February 8, 2018

Building a new track for the sawmill

Refresher on the need for a sawmill...

In the LHBA class, they recommend building a 25x25 cabin before attempting anything bigger. Actually, they recommend building a garage first, and then the house. But I didn't want to wait, so we started with a 40x40- the biggest cabin LHBA makes plans for.  There are multiple reasons they don't recommend starting with the 40x40:
  • Permit headaches: For a 40x40 home, you'll need a minimum of 44' logs (2' of overhang on each end). Transporting of logs commercially that are 44' can be a headache when 53' is the max length (including the truck) most highways allow. It's problematic for the driver- and they'll pass that cost on to you.
  • Ridge pole needs to be at least 5' longer on each end (50' minimum), and 17" average diameter, with little to no taper. This means this log will probably weigh around 7,000 lbs- 1 ton more than my heaviest log.
  • More materials equals more headaches, more work, more cost, more time, more skill, etc.
  • The reason for this post: rafters. 

Rafters for a 40x40:
  • Rafters span half the house, or 20' horizontal "run".
  • 6/12 pitch for roof means they "rise" half of the "run" (20'), so that's 10' 
  • Put on your math hat (sorry, can't help it, former math teacher): Pythagorean theorem shows: 10² + 20² = 100+400=500. Square root of 500 is the hypotenuse, or the length of the rafter, or 22.4', plus some overhang. 
  • The plans say use 4x10's, 26 feet long.
  • Home Depot and other places- it's a special order for a 4x12 beam over 16', and they want around $300 per beam. I need 32 - $9,600! Wow! 
  • I have tons of trees and access to more- I could cut my own rafters and save about $7,000....

I bought a sawmill from a fellow LHBA member for very cheap- let's say less than half of a new one- yes it was a great deal- "Thanks, Allen". It's a Hudson Oscar 121, with a 21" capacity. But it had two problems:
  • It only came with 12' of track
  • Came with no log dogs.

Collecting information and materials

I checked with Hudson- they wanted about $100 each for their log dogs. I felt sure I could make my own. I looked online- and there are thousands of styles- using all thread, chains, even hydraulic set ups. I just wanted something simple. And I needed steel track- 2"x2"x1/4" angle steel and cross beams for stability. Total length of track to add to the 12' I already had would be 18'. I designed two tracks that were 10' and 8' each, and will bolt them together for use.

Getting started

With my plans in place, I called my friends at C&J Welding- Mr. Williams loves what I'm doing, and he also lives in the town I'm building in, so I always show him pictures of my progress. The guys at the shop are really knowledgeable on steel, and I take their recommendations. I bought a bunch of steel and some round bar and square tubing for the log dogs and delivered it to the neighbor's garage.

A little snag that I thought was a big snag

 I cut out all the pieces and got the track all welded. I was about to start on the log dogs when the neighbor came out. This is the guy that taught me to weld, and lets me use his welder and shop. I take him seriously because he has great ideas.

Side story: he bought some land on top of a mountain with no road going to it. His son told me he built his own road grader out of an old combine that he turned around backwards and put a plow on it. Cool stuff.


Anyway, he comes over and looks at the log dogs I built for the existing track- now, I've already used the log dogs and track to cut a 7"x7"x 10' beam, and it worked out pretty well- just a little rounded on the edges, but I thought that was due to my blade not being tight enough.

My log dog, almost complete
He says, "Those dogs ain't gonna work."

Me: "Ummm....They should- I already cut this beam with them and they work fine."
Him: "No, let me show you a better way."

He tries to explain how I can use all-thread and a pipe and a nut, but he can't talk very well due to a stroke; and listening to him I'm getting frustrated because I've already used my idea and it works, and felt like he's slowing me down. And it's pouring rain.

I finally agree to try his idea. I weld it up like he tells me, then turn the track over, and I'm still not sure how it works.He also says we should cut my log dogs off, but I said, "No, I think I want to test out your idea before I change anything. I still can't see how it'll work."

At this point, he's not happy, and I'm not happy. I decide to go get a log to test the set up I have, and so I go out in the pouring rain over to my property and pick up a 10' log tip I cut off one of my logs a few weeks ago. I'm so frustrated, I don't even care about carrying it back over to his place in the rain and mud. I bring it back to his garage and put it on the track, but it's got a big knot sticking out. I get even more frustrated because it takes both of us to set the log with his threaded rod - this should be a one man operation. He had me take the sharpened bolts out of my logs (because I don't need them, he says), so now my dogs are flopping around while trying to hold the log in place.  Anyway, we couldn't cut the log because of the knot and I didn't have a chainsaw to cut it off, so I leave that night.

I was so frustrated I'm thinking about things like buying my own welder.  I call my mechanic and tell him what's going on, and ask, "What should I do?"

He says, "Can you do both ideas? Meaning, weld up like he says, but then just not use it if it doesn't work?"

I hadn't thought of that. "That's a great idea, but I wonder how he'll react."

Next morning is Friday. After work, I drive out there, dreading what's coming. I get the saw, cut off the knot, and fire up the sawmill. As I predicted, without any screws in the log from my dogs, the mill throws the log off the track.

I put the screws back in the log dogs, and it works a lot better. But I also notice that his threaded arm helps set the log at a right angle on the second cut - not what he had in mind, but I like it.

The whole time, I'm waiting for him to come out and supervise, but he doesn't. I finally have a sample cut - it's a 2x2. I don't think it's working like he wants, but it is helping keep the log square. I go to his door- he comes out and says he's not feeling well today (he's in his 80's). He gives his approval on the log, and I feel a lot better about everything. I think I overreacted the other night- none of the bad feelings are there. I weld up the rest of my dogs that night. Big snag turns out to be nothing.

Saturday, I get there around 6:00 AM. I finish welding up everything, then I had to go take my daughter to an activity.


Finishing up

Monday, I laid the whole thing out on the ground, and clamped the pieces together to drill holes to connect all the tracks together and set the whole thing up. I cut 4 out of 8 holes, and on #5, the drill bit broke.  Meanwhile, the neighbor comes over to supervise. He spends a long time looking at my log dogs, not saying anything. I'm nervous- I'm sure he notices I made 3 more of my style of log dogs.  Finally he says, "I don't think your set up is going to work, but I'll keep my mouth shut, and we'll see what happens." Without a drill bit, I can't finish, and it's getting dark, so I gave up and put everything away.

Test run

set up
Wednesday I finally got a new drill bit- a 1/2" cobalt steel bit, things went smoother. Then I was able to get the track oriented, leveled, and put the mill on it. There's one little misalignment in the track- the manufacturer's track isn't exactly 24" wide, so my track sticks out about 1/16".  I need to grind that area down. Other than that, the mill rolls along like a choo-choo train. I drove around on the tractor in the dark, looking for a log that I could put on the track, but all of the ones I could see on racks were spoken for. Finally it was too dark, and I couldn't see them, so I put the mill and tools away.

Thursday- I found a log I'm not going to use for the house, but it was crooked about 20 feet into it, so I cut it at 20 feet, and made a 7"x7" by 20' beam:
too crooked That's better (but shorter- darn)

Super excited now. I need to cut 32 of them. But I talked to my engineer and I'm waiting for a response. The plans call for 4x10 beams, but is a 7x7 equivalent? None of the engineering span tables I can find include tables for 26' rafters. I could probably dig out my calculus and figure out the moment of inertia, blah, blah, blah, but I think he'll have the right info for me.

Saturday, December 16, 2017

It’s been a weird month

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I cut 6 more trees

I measure trees by their diameter (straight across the butt of the log), while Julie measures the circumference (with a tape all the way around the butt of the log).  Either way is fine, but since she’s picking the logs, we’re going with her measurement. The idea in the beginning was to stack logs from biggest circumference to smallest circumference. We got started on the second level, and were at a point where the circumference was about to drop below five feet. And then get skinny dramatically. There were still some big ones here and there that we could cut on our property and next door. Julie identified four that were at least five feet around and asked me to cut them. It was now or never. I cut a couple more that are also pretty big.
That was about a week or so before Thanksgiving. I cut them down, and then started moving them over to my racks for peeling. One happened to be back in a swampy area, so I ran into some problems moving it- couldn’t get close enough with the tractor- even with my 60′ cable. So I took down a pulley off one of my lifting poles and used that for mechanical advantage. It worked, but I broke my rope.
I also bent the forks on the tractor again, and re-welded them, and then bent them again. I have some new 5,000 lb forks from a forklift, but need the ok from my neighbor before I weld them onto his frame that I’m borrowing.
I got all of the logs racked, but it took about three weeks to peel just 4 of them- too cold for the bugs to help, and the sap is like glue. I have some huge calluses on my hands now, because manly. Yeah.

fixed the other truck

Meanwhile, my 1979 Ford F150 was having problems starting. I fought with it all of Thanksgiving weekend- I replaced the starter, the alternator, the ignition switch, and the spark plugs and wires. The only thing left is the cap, but I found out through a great shock (literally), that it is working fine. Only mechanics will laugh….
I needed it running reliably because I’m about to replace the motor in my Toyota pickup. But now it purrs like a kitten, and starts every time.

ordered a new motor

I bit the bullet and ordered a new motor (professionally rebuilt long block). Had to put it on the credit card, but don’t worry, selling the truck will pay off the credit card as well. I’ve been putting this off for almost a year. Last year, you’ll remember I had a valve crack in it, and replaced the head gasket. I guess it also messed up the crank. I’m motivated by the idea that it’s still worth a few thousand $$$, so fixing it will help us fund the roof of our home, which is probably the single most expensive part of this project.

 why we hate “daylight savings” or “not daylight savings”

My boss lets me work 6:30 – 3:30. In the winter, this means I have about 1.5 hours of daylight after work. It might seem like a waste to go out there, only to be able to work for an hour, but every little bit of work I can do is  progress. Other LHBA members have to stop work altogether because of snow, so I don’t really want to complain. In the summer, I have almost 6 hours of daylight. If we wouldn’t “fall back”, I’d still have 2.5 hours of daylight in the winter. I realize that in the winter we are actually on standard time, but I’d give up an hour of daylight in the summer for an extra hour in the winter; who’s with me?
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Still progressing

Last weekend, we burned some brush, and put up a log on Saturday. It was bitter cold in the morning, and windy all day. My lips are still chapped from exposure. This was the first log of the 10th course. We are about 12 feet off the foundation, and about 15 feet off the ground. It was pretty straight but had a long bow in it. While I was lifting it, one of the ropes broke right up near where it was tied to the tractor. It just snapped right off the front of the tractor. I saw a poof of dust, and the log falling. Nobody got hurt, and the house and log are fine. I pinned half the log, then hooked up a chain to the tip and had Julie pull it with the car to get the bow out. But it was still up about a foot off the one below. I went to grab my chain binders to bind it down, and I guess they got stolen. Kinda upset at that, and that we couldn’t finish that log. Went over to Harbor Freight that night for two new chain binders and a chain. This week, I finished binding it and added some more pins.
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where do we go from here?

I have a bunch of vacation I have to use at work before the end of the year. Had a big project over the summer/fall that I needed to help out with that prevented me from taking vacation days, but it is winding down. I only have to come to work for 3 days for the rest of the year. And I still have more time from this year, but they let us carry over 40 hours from year to year.
We keep going. The new motor comes in this week. I want to get that job done, and get on with stacking. I ordered new rope, since the existing rope is getting pretty frayed. However, we are getting closer. I may have to hire a trac hoe to come pull my ridge pole out of the woods. The RPSL’s and the ridge pole are the next big items we have to install when the walls are done. After that- I took some measurements on my sawmill- I’m about to turn my 12′ of track into 28′ of track, and will then cut some rafters out of some “still growing” logs.
That’s all for now, folks. Thanks for all the likes on my wife’s video! Comments here are appreciated as well.